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Fedaykin

12th Nov feedback

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First post on here,and first time at the site as a skirmisher.What can I say,had an amazing time ,great staff and marshalls,fantastic gaming area ,fast flowing gameplay and great sportsmanship.Well done guys and thanks for a fantastic day,will defo be coming back.

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Great day as always. just an issue with the hit taking and the full auto from close range in buildings. Saw a lot of damaged faces and the rules only changed when Marshall was on the receiving end. Sniping became extremely frustrating due to the non hit taking. marshals were present on some instances but failed to act. fair doos the rooms were dark at some points but a seven man squad opening up on an unsuspecting group of enemies usually gets more than one hit. maybe marshals calling the hits they see might be an idea? Like i said a good day as usual. some great teamwork and sneaking about.

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Great day today, finding it hard to type due to shot fingers :ph34r: .As with Lukes post above non hit taking today was really bad. As the marshals point out in the morning briefing airsoft is a game of honour and if people are going piss about making up their own rules not taking hits, using fully auto at close range inside and my major gripe with today not taking grenade hits the game is going to ruined for everyone. Big up you non hit taking losers dont spoil our great game we all love.

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Having not played at First and Only in a while (not since the old Matlock site and the Mill at Manchester) I was glad to see that little has changed: Great gameplay which was well controlled to avoid loads of downtime; typically high standard marshalling and some nice scenarios that made good use of the site.

 

There were three highpoints for me:

The standard of gamesmanship from all the players I encountered was excellent. Folk seemed to get stuck in on both sides and both teams seemed to move around the site quickly so we never ended up camping in buildings. Met some nice folk too!

 

The marshalling was exemplary. The sheer number of marshals onsite puts other skirmish sites to shame! Marshals always seemed to be nearby and adopted a really proactive yet unobtrusive approach. The accusation about a hot gun in the first game led to us all being rechronoed at respawn - very unobtrusively but effective. Issues such as continual use of auto (which tbh I never witnessed) and not taking hits from pyro were dealt with quickly.

 

The site itself was fantastic too and games were tailored towards making the most of it (should I mention that it's only 15 mins from my house?). The close proximity within buildings and the amount of foliage meant that I didn't come off semi auto all day and I'm appreciating the fact that I'm not covered in pockmarks as I was on the receiving end of some very restrained shooters.

 

Thanks very much for an awesome day! I'll definitely be back :)

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Great day as usual. well marshaled, weather wasnt bad, having a good laugh with the immortals all brilliant. although:

 

the non hit taking was the worst ive seen in my time playing (pyro and BB)

the fully auto at close quarters and inside was idiotic and dangerous (although was well maintained with single only after lunch)

 

I will however give full respect to the player in the bunker in heavy gear. i took a shot at him with the shotgun from about 1meter and caught him in the back when he was running through a door from the window. i got hit and he leaned out of the window and asked if i hit him while he ran out of the room. he took it with no argument. not sure what your name was but a true honorable player

 

overall a good day that without your expert (and quick) marshaling could well have been ruined.

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Great day again! really good fun. Best bit when I approached a corner of a wall and a yellow team member came around it. we both stood there 2 foot apart, looking at each other and said "that's a hit then " simultaneously. yes there was some none hit taking, and i understood there was some full auto issues , but as usual the firm hand approach of the F&O team brought it back in hand. Enjoyed teaming up with the immortals, the ridge advance and fire maneuver was awesome. whens the next training guys?

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Had a bloody fantastic day, best one for a while especially with the other 6 guys with snipers and long rifles at the pub when the reds where defending it and we were all calling out targets and got massacred. Yep some people were taking the absolute piss with non hit taking but I mentioned it to a marshal and the people I had issues were dealt with. Never have I ever had any issues with any marshalling at any F&O site.

But there was some fantastic players out there though today :)

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as usual a brilliant day. the immortals had one of their first outings as a full team and I thought they really hit their stride. the gameplay was at its usually high standard and both teams got stuck in. from what I saw there was a small amount of full auto at close range so it is understandable that the marshals enforced a 'semi only' rule for the rest of the day, and there were several reports of non- hit taking but the only one i witnessed was a group of people not taking a hit from a pyro when out in the open, although this is more likely down to both parties having trouble judging distances more than anything else. (I feel I should also apologise both to jimjogg and the player hiding behind the tree in the VIP escort game, I should not have shouted what I did and, although it wasn't full on cheat calling, it was still completely wrong and a lack of judgement on my part)

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really enjoyed yesterday, as usual for most F&O sites iv been to.

i didnt witness any of this no hit taking but i did witness cheat calling, and quite a lot of it to be honest;

 

mentioned in the brief is cheat calling. cheat calling in my opinion is worse than actually not taking hits. as you may be having a problem but others arent. if youve got a problem, talk to a marshal, dont go shouting about it.

 

anyway, i had a great day the only negative for me was with the first game, ended up in (i think) d3, spent the whole game doing jack as noone came anywhere near us.

 

oh that and majour sneaking into the building opposite me and 2 of my lot, taking all 3 of us out with his uzi which used to belong to one of the blokes he took out. sneaky.....

 

looking forward to seeing the pictures and the next time i can get up to the site.

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I will however give full respect to the player in the bunker in heavy gear. i took a shot at him with the shotgun from about 1meter and caught him in the back when he was running through a door from the window. i got hit and he leaned out of the window and asked if i hit him while he ran out of the room. he took it with no argument. not sure what your name was but a true honorable player

 

 

Cheers fella! That was me.

 

It seems like there were some radically different experiences out there yesterday. I spent much of the day running about with a few great players (Sam, Graham and a couple of guys whose names I missed) and we seemed to be continually toing and froing from regen. Guys I shot at all seemed to take their hits and the folk I was with were honest to a fault.

 

As I spent a good chunk of the day working through bulidings to get back in the fight I can't say I was right in the thick of it so my experience isn't necessarily representative. It sounds like some folk had a much less positive experience and are understandably frustrated. It is a shame if a minority of idiots spoil things for the rest of us. If you're one of them reading this, then I hope you take the comments on board.

Though just to play Devil's advocate for a minute, it is a lot harder to tell if you've been hit on semi. I know that it's normally after the second or third hit I'm registering a hit unless it's on bare skin / thin clothing.

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I had a pretty good day out considering I lost half a tooth in the first engagement of the first game!

 

Plenty of hard work and teamwork from the Immortals, it was a hell of a lot of fun playing together as a team for the first time en mass. Nice to see some of the old Fearful Silence players back together if only for a day, it's been too long!

 

Great gameplay from both sides, but there was a lot of cheat calling going on which detracted from the day. I do admit I did see red in the afternoon when two people on my own team no less laid into me for using full auto indoors despite the fact that I had my pistol and BFG in my hands and my assault rifle slung with the safety on, and I would like to apologise to them for the verbal I gave them back. That was not cool, and I have no excuses for my poor conduct.

 

On to the positive notes of the day - lots of very well coordinated room clearing from the reds, everyone as a whole seemed to have their shit together, which was really nice. The Immortals being the special forces team in the escalating engagement game was really good fun, and the sheer amount of BFG kills I got throughout the day just confirmed my decision to get one was a smart investment.

 

Eagerly awaiting the photos from the day, and Jamies video is stellar! Lots of good footage of both teams.

 

Final note, and this goes without saying... Marshalling was superb, I was surprised to hear that the yellows had their rifles re-chronoed after the first game due to what I can only assume was my injury. Alex informed me himself that it had been done, so thanks very much guys! I do feel that it wasn't required, as it could have happened to anyone and no blame could be placed on anyone but myself for being daft enough not to wear full face protection - it's in the safety brief for a reason guys!

 

Thanks again and see you all at Bolton on the 27th!

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I had a good day. Games had a good pace to them and got you mooching across the site and seems there was a lot less of the 'get 3 of 5 objectives, sod the rest, we'll sit on them in D5' castle-ing game play that can happen (though it's still fun to break someone's base and nick all their stuff).

 

Downsides for me as I scrub through the footage from the day is that I've found 3 instances of non hit taking in the first game - filming in 720p at 60fps means when the lighting is right I can often see BBs appearing as white tracers in the footage which allows me to track if a BB has gone into someone's centre mass of not. The camera also picks up any hits on me as a loud 'pap' if they happen on the camera or anywhere on my from the waist up which makes watching some of these engagements quite interesting as normally only my head/shoulders/gun are exposed and I can see rounds going above/below/to the side of the camera. Reminds me of an old Punisher comic - "They put the sights on top for a reason".

 

I can only assume that the people I was shooting were wearing sufficient layers to not feel their hits they don't seem to be taken until I shifted my point of aim for the thighs. I remember this time last year during the safety briefs there would be a mention of how if cold weather kit is affecting your ability to recognise hits you would be asked to adjust your load out by ditching layers of kit.

 

Though just to play Devil's advocate for a minute, it is a lot harder to tell if you've been hit on semi. I know that it's normally after the second or third hit I'm registering a hit unless it's on bare skin / thin clothing.

 

Personally I would disagree - I'm often getting hit by the one round of a 10 round burst that's sent my way and it's either going 'thwack' off my helmet/skull/glasses or otherwise 'papping' off my clothing so you have try to be aware of what it sounds like when a BB hits you. Not the easiest of things to do if you've got an AEG going off next to one of your ears I know. The only reason I wanted to quote that was because everyone at some point has a hit land on them that they genuinely won't notice, unfortunately instead of the shooter just plugging more rounds into the target until the arm goes up, some people just balloon up into a ball of verbal abuse. Having been on the receiving end of such a reaction a few years back it's not exactly pleasant - hence F&O having zero tolerance for cheat calling/non hit taking.

 

I didn't see any FA inside myself although Mags was pretty annoyed at getting a burst to the face inside the Embassy building - I can't remember if this was before or after the 'Semi for the rest of the day' brief.

 

Overall there were minor issues here and there throughout the day but I can't say they massively affected my enjoyment of the game, other than putting a marshal in all 4 corners of every room I don't think the day could have been ran any better.

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Was a great day as usual at Anzio

 

Great weather and great variance in the gaming!

 

Myself and a little group managed to find ... and kill the pilot then recover him back to the garage which was great fun.

 

Teaming with the immortals at points was good as their teamplay was pretty good, until we all got nailed at the bunker trying to get the VIP to the second objective!

 

There was a vibe of something in the air though and it seemed to be creeping throughout the day.

 

Bad bits though:

 

Absolutely knackered today! Need to stop climbing out windows like an 18 year old :D

 

Dan's tooth :( that was a nasty hit mate and I hope it's sorted for you, just a occupational hazard though and like you said, it will happen to us all at some point in this sport :D (I did tell you that I have a phobia about teeth etc... and everytime you smiled I felt feint hehe this is why I was trying to avoid you some in the afternoon matey :P )

 

 

Guy standing at the exterior edge of embassay near bunker with hand in air shouting medic,rifle slung is not a fecking target for full auto fire from two players who had been there sometime so not as if they just ran up and seen me and fired from the hip etc.. This I found to be the worse I have experienced before. My whole left side was peppered with BB's due to these two fools.

I did ask one player to "calm it dow" inside the embassy and reminded him of the safety brief, he switched to semi and seemed happy with that. One thing I did notice was a player translating the 15ft engagement in around buildings to be if their target was more than 15ft away they could full auto all they wanted.... needless to say a marshall jumped right upon that player and dealt with them there and then, which was a great bit of marshalling.

 

Another thing, non-hit taking was going on, I witnessed 3 red team members in a corridor in the embassay (the CIA game) see a BFG land 3 feet away and go off, with them having no cover (I was hiding in the shower area so had tiled wall cover!) and continue to play and even argue with the BFG thrower. I did report this to a marshall who was playing on the red team and was in the embassay, he took note and decided to keep an eye on these players, which should have taken the hit as it was a justified kill by the BFG'er, muppets :P

It also gets to the stage that even if you try to play honestly you get a bit paranoid with non hit taking. The game before the piston/aeg game I ended up crawling on my hands and knees through the underbrush near the pub where we engaged some yellows, they were firing through the big hedge and had very little chance to hit us though, but could hear them moaning about it. One of them threw a pyro (which bounced on a tree) and it landed 20+ feet away behind the tree and hedgeline then went off. I decided to take the hit rather than the hassle of people moaning even more. But this isn't a fault of F&O, no its the fault of people being idiots and moaning because they think shooting through a dense bush will give them accurate fire and certain kills.... muppets.

 

F&O have the best marshalls on any airsoft site I have been to and they are a bunch of really friendly guys (except jamie and his pyros when you are in pillboxes.....my poor ears!) We the players are the ones who need to sort outselves out some and realise its honour based, if I were to miss taking a hit and was pulled on it later on I would be mortified and would appologise profusely, which has happened once before now (again Jamie was involved cause he likes to kill me!) F&O have rules regarding cheat calling etc for a reason and the undercurrent of players doing it yesterday did dampen an otherwise perfect day for me!

 

Night game at Anzio would be terrifying by the way chaps... can we have one hehe

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I have to agree with Duncan on that one, having spent half an hour exploring Anzio at around midnight on Friday, the place is creepy as hell in the dark. Night games would be awesome.

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I agree in that for some bizarre reason the day play did have some of the worst non hit taking I have seen, but credit to the marshals they did a fantasic job. I had a guy at the front of the embassy which I shot right on the nose of the full face mask and he didnt take it. A few loud shouts of 'marshal' and it was dealt with (the quilty person had by then decided to take his hits, I wonder why?!).

 

Some great designed games despite the fact I usually preferred shorter games, the couple of longer games worked well. As for the grenade throwing near the entrance gate- best and longest throw of the year!! Well done to whoever that was.

 

Didn't experience the full auto in the buildings and though I could understand the semi on rule later it was a bit of a pisser cos my son's AEG wasn't firing on single shot so had to swap with him and go pistol only.

 

Look forward to the next game I can make it to. Thanks guys.

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would have loved to have been there teaming with the other immortals but sadly i returned from my holiday in the land of sand the day after this game day. but it sounds like the immortals had some fun together.

 

shame to see several reports of full auto indoors and some non hit taking though. and dan losing part of a tooth, nasty.

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For those who care, got my tooth sorted this morning, good as new! So that means I'll be back airsofting without any real disruption in attendance - with a full face mask next time of course!

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For those who care, got my tooth sorted this morning, good as new! So that means I'll be back airsofting without any real disruption in attendance - with a full face mask next time of course!

 

Nice one mate means I will be able to talk to you without feeling sick!

 

I am buying a neoprene one to try out at the min

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I've seen some people use gumshields like boxers do but I've never really considered it. I am very much tempted to get one of those mesh masks that cover the ears as well.

 

For fear of derailing the thread though, had a lot of fun in the Embassy later in the afternoon, lots of cool firefights in the 'Bomb' mission too.

 

Anyone else have any video footage?

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